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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://mileometer.net/2008/07/24/non-tourists-on-the-road-less-traveled/comment-page-1/#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 12:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seriously considered walking into a pizza place, and ordering a pizza delivered to where I wanted to be; then hitching a ride with the delivery guy. I hold as leverage the fact that if they deliver it without me, I&#039;m not there.

Cabbies are usually a good choice to ask, too; except, apparently in San Francisco. We were there trying to find our way around on the motorcycle. We asked several people directions, and every single one of them began, &quot;Walk to the end of the block, and catch the #N bus...&quot; They included a gas station attendant and a cabbie. When pointed out that we weren&#039;t pedestrians (as we stood there carrying motorcycle helmets) none of them had a clue, anymore.

The Irony is, we were trying to find the Greyhound station.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seriously considered walking into a pizza place, and ordering a pizza delivered to where I wanted to be; then hitching a ride with the delivery guy. I hold as leverage the fact that if they deliver it without me, I&#8217;m not there.</p>
<p>Cabbies are usually a good choice to ask, too; except, apparently in San Francisco. We were there trying to find our way around on the motorcycle. We asked several people directions, and every single one of them began, &#8220;Walk to the end of the block, and catch the #N bus&#8230;&#8221; They included a gas station attendant and a cabbie. When pointed out that we weren&#8217;t pedestrians (as we stood there carrying motorcycle helmets) none of them had a clue, anymore.</p>
<p>The Irony is, we were trying to find the Greyhound station.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike V.</title>
		<link>http://mileometer.net/2008/07/24/non-tourists-on-the-road-less-traveled/comment-page-1/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I am trying to figure out where I am going, I usually ask a pizza delivery person.  They have local knowledge, and since I am usually headed for pizza it works out nicely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I am trying to figure out where I am going, I usually ask a pizza delivery person.  They have local knowledge, and since I am usually headed for pizza it works out nicely.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://mileometer.net/2008/07/24/non-tourists-on-the-road-less-traveled/comment-page-1/#comment-184</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cool.</p>
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		<title>By: pepe nero</title>
		<link>http://mileometer.net/2008/07/24/non-tourists-on-the-road-less-traveled/comment-page-1/#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator>pepe nero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian.

Your desire is very interesting. .. to see Italy as it was in the past, the once was.(Era comes from that, did you know that? In Italian &#039;era&#039; means he, she, or it, was.)

We go every summer, sometimes twice if we can. We are about 45 minutes from Florence, about the same from Pisa, and about fifteen minutes from Lucca. We have not been to Florence in years now-don&#039;t go in the summer you won&#039;t even find a place to sit, not even in the churches-once went to Pisa-years ago, and we have not been in Lucca for two years now.

The real Italy is not in those places, wonderful as they may be with their art and architectural treasures. It&#039;s the small towns (read &#039;Italy, The Places Between&#039; Ruth Simon.) that are, for my wife and I, the real Italy. It is impossible to walk by another person without the two of you greeting each other, strangers though you may be.

In the larger centers everything is geared towards tourism-their number one industry,naturally-and the picture you will get is, like most Italian surfaces, superficial, one atom thick, something pretending to be something that it is not (The Italians invented guilding and, it is said by Luigi Barzini &#039;in The Italians&#039;, that they made the most beautiful armor suits ever-Beautiful artwork and engraving-and the most useless against arrow s or other weapons.

In the smaller towns the superficiality is limited social engagements, be it with the farmer next door, or the waiter at a restaurant. Italians believe that &#039;in the world&#039; they must put on their best front, play their &#039;part&#039; expertly,that all is drama.

If you are lucky enough to ever be invited into an Italian home (rare and a compliment when it happens) you may get a glimpse of what Italians are really like. The home is the place where they are allowed to be, in fact must be, who they, at heart, really are. Naturally, if you are a guest, the performance may continue.)

my best to you,


pepe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian.</p>
<p>Your desire is very interesting. .. to see Italy as it was in the past, the once was.(Era comes from that, did you know that? In Italian &#8216;era&#8217; means he, she, or it, was.)</p>
<p>We go every summer, sometimes twice if we can. We are about 45 minutes from Florence, about the same from Pisa, and about fifteen minutes from Lucca. We have not been to Florence in years now-don&#8217;t go in the summer you won&#8217;t even find a place to sit, not even in the churches-once went to Pisa-years ago, and we have not been in Lucca for two years now.</p>
<p>The real Italy is not in those places, wonderful as they may be with their art and architectural treasures. It&#8217;s the small towns (read &#8216;Italy, The Places Between&#8217; Ruth Simon.) that are, for my wife and I, the real Italy. It is impossible to walk by another person without the two of you greeting each other, strangers though you may be.</p>
<p>In the larger centers everything is geared towards tourism-their number one industry,naturally-and the picture you will get is, like most Italian surfaces, superficial, one atom thick, something pretending to be something that it is not (The Italians invented guilding and, it is said by Luigi Barzini &#8216;in The Italians&#8217;, that they made the most beautiful armor suits ever-Beautiful artwork and engraving-and the most useless against arrow s or other weapons.</p>
<p>In the smaller towns the superficiality is limited social engagements, be it with the farmer next door, or the waiter at a restaurant. Italians believe that &#8216;in the world&#8217; they must put on their best front, play their &#8216;part&#8217; expertly,that all is drama.</p>
<p>If you are lucky enough to ever be invited into an Italian home (rare and a compliment when it happens) you may get a glimpse of what Italians are really like. The home is the place where they are allowed to be, in fact must be, who they, at heart, really are. Naturally, if you are a guest, the performance may continue.)</p>
<p>my best to you,</p>
<p>pepe</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Welsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Welsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only place I really want to tourist is Italy. But then, the Italy I want to visit is Italy in the past - Rome, the Renaissance, the middle ages, the papal court, the Doge, etc... and you can only visit the past, not live there, though some do try pretty succesfully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only place I really want to tourist is Italy. But then, the Italy I want to visit is Italy in the past &#8211; Rome, the Renaissance, the middle ages, the papal court, the Doge, etc&#8230; and you can only visit the past, not live there, though some do try pretty succesfully.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m more at-home on the road than I am &#039;at home&#039;. Always was. If I&#039;m gone for more than a day, going back is just as weird as leaving was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m more at-home on the road than I am &#8216;at home&#8217;. Always was. If I&#8217;m gone for more than a day, going back is just as weird as leaving was.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought that, of all people, you might understand.

And I certainly don&#039;t begrudge anyone else who enjoys touristing! (Goodness knows tourism drives a good chunk of the local economy in my home town.) It just isn&#039;t so much my own cup of tea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that, of all people, you might understand.</p>
<p>And I certainly don&#8217;t begrudge anyone else who enjoys touristing! (Goodness knows tourism drives a good chunk of the local economy in my home town.) It just isn&#8217;t so much my own cup of tea.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Welsh</title>
		<link>http://mileometer.net/2008/07/24/non-tourists-on-the-road-less-traveled/comment-page-1/#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Welsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah, I&#039;ve always felt that the way you really get to know a place is to have a reason to be there beyond tourism.  Doesn&#039;t have to be work (could be school, or family, or a hobby) but something that knits you into that social lives and rhythym of place.  I like travelling, but I don&#039;t much like touristing, as a rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yah, I&#8217;ve always felt that the way you really get to know a place is to have a reason to be there beyond tourism.  Doesn&#8217;t have to be work (could be school, or family, or a hobby) but something that knits you into that social lives and rhythym of place.  I like travelling, but I don&#8217;t much like touristing, as a rule.</p>
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